CEC: Why is now the time for Canada to reconsider its pipeline strategy?
Ouellette: I think recent events make it clear that it is high time to develop new markets for Canadian oil. At the moment, we are very dependent on the US market. Ninety-eight per cent of our oil exports go to our southern neighbours, and we are seeing that the US is starting to throw up obstacles to our oil, especially with the cancellation of the permit for Keystone XL.
It is time for Canada to review its strategy because we see that now, with the new administration, it can become very dangerous for us to only have one client for our exports.
CEC: One of your recommendations is that the provinces work together to allow for a west-east oil pipeline. Do you think this can be achieved?
Ouellette: I think so. In the past few months, we have sent western oil by boat through the Panama Canal to the Irving Oil refinery in New Brunswick, and that makes no sense at all. Right now, we just don’t have the pipelines we need to bring enough oil to our ports to export it to countries that want to buy it like India, China, [and] Japan. Even feeding our own refineries right now can be difficult. Here in Quebec and in the Atlantic provinces we import oil from Saudi Arabia. If we can produce our own oil and use it in our own provinces, it would be very beneficial.
I really think that a project like Energy East should be considered right now, and we need our politicians to do everything they can to make that happen if companies are willing to go forward with such projects.
CEC: There is a narrative out there that oil demand is declining and that new pipelines simply aren’t required in North America. What do you think about that?
Ouellette: If we look at the numbers, the demand for oil in the world will grow by more than nine per cent between now and 2045. So, when people say that we don’t need oil anymore, it’s just not true.
It is true that on our continent the demand will go down by around 25 per cent, but when we look at Latin America, the demand will go up by more than 25 per cent. In China, it’s 26 per cent. Middle East, it’s 75 per cent, India 130 per cent. We can see that many markets in the world will see their demand grow. It’s a great opportunity for Canada, and we need to capture it.
There’s a lot of people saying that the demand will increase in [places like] India and China, but they are already doing business with, let’s say, Saudi Arabia or Iraq, so why would we need to produce oil and export to these markets? Well, our energy sector is way more ethical and responsible than the ones in Saudi Arabia and Iraq. If we can substitute that oil demand with our oil, it could be good for not only the environment but for people in the energy sector.
CEC: Is it important for Canadians that Canada has a healthy oil and gas sector?
Ouellette: Of course. Right now, the energy sector represents 10 per cent of the Canadian economy, which is a lot. And even for provinces like Quebec it’s very important, because equalization payments rely a bit on the energy sector. And we know that the energy sector in Canada employs directly and indirectly more than 800,000 people, so it’s a very important sector for our economy.
Especially right now, our economy and businesses are struggling with the COVID situation, so we really need the energy sector for the economic recovery. That is why we need to review our strategy, and we need politicians to help us do that.
It’s not just for the West that it’s going to be useful and very beneficial. It’s also for the eastern provinces because we collect taxes, we collect royalties from the energy sector, and that is beneficial for all our public programs. Just over the past five years, the federal government collected an average of $14 billion a year from the oil and gas industry. To put it in perspective, this amount is equivalent to more than half of the sum of all provincial deficits during the pandemic.
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